Hi, I must say I was disappointed when I upgraded from Microsoft Office v.X (since 2004) to Microsoft Office 2008 for Macintosh. Excel is the worst. Things which worked before are now not working! It is very slow with all these buttons that are displayed in film like sequences instead of popping up immediately. Fun the first time but then you only want speed and no fance gimmics. (It really feels like it is time to buy a new computer but I have it running on a 2.66 Mac Pro Quad core with 6 GB of RAM.) Word 2008 has crashed or had to be shut down five times a day. Yesterday it said I couldn’t save my 4.7 MB document because the disk was full. There was 50 GB free. No other disks helped. Nothing but to shoot it down and restart Office. Then there was enought space for Ward to save when I had retyped my changes … There seems not to be bany new good things I had expected after four years of development. Mostly more fancy and CPU using. I wish I could get my money back! Don’t buy it yet! It is far from a finished product in my honest opinion despite I have the latest autoupdate installed.

Hi, I must say I was disappointed when I upgraded from Microsoft Office v.X (since 2004) to Microsoft Office 2008 for Macintosh. Excel is the worst. Things which worked before are now not working! It is very slow with all these buttons that are displayed in film like sequences instead of popping up immediately. Fun the first time but then you only want speed and no fance gimmics. (It really feels like it is time to buy a new computer but I have it running on a 2.66 Mac Pro Quad core with 6 GB of RAM.) Word 2008 has crashed or had to be shut down five times a day. Yesterday it said I couldn’t save my 4.7 MB document because the disk was full. There was 50 GB free. No other disks helped. Nothing but to shoot it down and restart Office. Then there was enought space for Ward to save when I had retyped my changes … There seems not to be bany new good things I had expected after four years of development. Mostly more fancy and CPU using. I wish I could get my money back! Don’t buy it yet! It is far from a finished product in my honest opinion despite I have the latest autoupdate installed.

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So embarrassingly self-conscious: “This was a business decision,” without saying what the decision was. It looks like it was picked to death as it made its way past the desktops of the PR committee.

Apple did somewhat better when they announced the OS X Leopard delay, their release does start with a bit of hand-waving about the highly-anticipated iPhone, but it seems to have been written by an actual person.

“…we had to borrow some key software engineering and QA resources from our Mac OS X team, and as a result we will not be able to release Leopard at our Worldwide Developers Conference in early June as planned. … We think it will be well worth the wait. Life often presents tradeoffs, and in this case we’re sure we’ve made the right ones.”

It is now AWOL from Apple’s news release archive, only to be found on one Apple mailing list:

http://lists.apple.com/archives/fed-talk/2007/Apr/msg00060.html

So embarrassingly self-conscious: “This was a business decision,” without saying what the decision was. It looks like it was picked to death as it made its way past the desktops of the PR committee.

Apple did somewhat better when they announced the OS X Leopard delay, their release does start with a bit of hand-waving about the highly-anticipated iPhone, but it seems to have been written by an actual person.

“…we had to borrow some key software engineering and QA resources from our Mac OS X team, and as a result we will not be able to release Leopard at our Worldwide Developers Conference in early June as planned. … We think it will be well worth the wait. Life often presents tradeoffs, and in this case we’re sure we’ve made the right ones.”

It is now AWOL from Apple’s news release archive, only to be found on one Apple mailing list:

http://lists.apple.com/archives/fed-talk/2007/Apr/msg00060.html

Joe, this seems to me to be be a resources problem. The code has got so complex that huge teams of people have mountains of code to check and it’s become a Gordian Knot exercise to fix and no respecter of RTM dates.

Rumours about the same problem surfaced last year when Microsoft raised a storm with the email marketing industry when they removed IE6 like html rendering from Office 2007 Outlook, reverting back to an old non-standard Word engine. The seasoned observer rumours were that the Outlook security team found themselves a bunch of security hack possibilities in Outlook 2007 they found were just too hard to fix. However, my observation is given the miniscule take up of the PC version of Office 2007 in businesses, they’ve plenty of time to fix it in a new service pack if we all wait around long enough.

The Gordian Knot problem had it’s solution though – Alexander the Great took a sword to it. Microsoft see this solution as Open Office and Thunderbird for Macs and are quite upset about it.

Chris

Joe, this seems to me to be be a resources problem. The code has got so complex that huge teams of people have mountains of code to check and it’s become a Gordian Knot exercise to fix and no respecter of RTM dates.

Rumours about the same problem surfaced last year when Microsoft raised a storm with the email marketing industry when they removed IE6 like html rendering from Office 2007 Outlook, reverting back to an old non-standard Word engine. The seasoned observer rumours were that the Outlook security team found themselves a bunch of security hack possibilities in Outlook 2007 they found were just too hard to fix. However, my observation is given the miniscule take up of the PC version of Office 2007 in businesses, they’ve plenty of time to fix it in a new service pack if we all wait around long enough.

The Gordian Knot problem had it’s solution though – Alexander the Great took a sword to it. Microsoft see this solution as Open Office and Thunderbird for Macs and are quite upset about it.

Chris

Amen Joe!

As a recent Mac convert, I’ve struggled with the weaknesses of Office 2004 compared to the Windows versions. I wrote this week about a particularly painful episode involving PowerPoint 2004 and the apparent lack of an actual, functioning autorecover feature! If anyone’s interested, here’s the link to the post on my blog: http://www.charlesknutson.net/?p=108

Amen Joe!

As a recent Mac convert, I’ve struggled with the weaknesses of Office 2004 compared to the Windows versions. I wrote this week about a particularly painful episode involving PowerPoint 2004 and the apparent lack of an actual, functioning autorecover feature! If anyone’s interested, here’s the link to the post on my blog: http://www.charlesknutson.net/?p=108

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Nick: The blog was somewhat more forthcoming, but still, in my opinion, not honest enough. The focus was still on the “we want quality” notion, rather than on “we goofed.”

You are quite right to point out that Microsoft is not a single entity, but historically, this is the sort of language the company has consistently used. As, of course, do many other companies.

Nick: The blog was somewhat more forthcoming, but still, in my opinion, not honest enough. The focus was still on the “we want quality” notion, rather than on “we goofed.”

You are quite right to point out that Microsoft is not a single entity, but historically, this is the sort of language the company has consistently used. As, of course, do many other companies.

The press release you received is strangely roundabout in its wording, as if the author is afraid of using negative words like “delay” or “slip”. But it’s worth noting that the linked blog post has none of your complaints. It’s very up front about how the team is disappointed by the delay and why they think it’s necessary and gives more detail about their future plans.

Perhaps the real point is that you might be putting things a bit broadly when you speak of Microsoft as a single entity.

The press release you received is strangely roundabout in its wording, as if the author is afraid of using negative words like “delay” or “slip”. But it’s worth noting that the linked blog post has none of your complaints. It’s very up front about how the team is disappointed by the delay and why they think it’s necessary and gives more detail about their future plans.

Perhaps the real point is that you might be putting things a bit broadly when you speak of Microsoft as a single entity.

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